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  Can some one please explain to me what that whole 144,000 thing was about?

  by TimothyT in

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  i suppose its a little late to ask this and i never got it even as a jw, but:.

  can someone please explain what the whole 144,000 thing is about?

  has god only saved a certain group of people?

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  Bungi Bill

  So much for the WTS's insistence that small children must be dragged along to all the meetings, assemblies etc.

  TimothyT's experiences here only demonstrate that most of it goes clean over their heads!

  Bill.
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  Are YOU a Believer, Atheist, Agnostic, Active JW or WHAT?

  by Greybeard in

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  sorry if this has been asked before but i would love to know the current ratio on this forum.. i'm a believer/christian former jw for 45 years... born in .

  what are you now and what were you?.

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  Bungi Bill

  The expression "Totally Religioned Out" would best describe my position - although I do still try to keep an open mind toward those occurrences that cannot be explained in any other way but spiritual.

  Bill.
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  What's behind the JW "stare"

  by InterestedOne in

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  in my interactions with jw males guarding the kh entrance or with the various males my study conductor would bring to our study (one i later found out was considered a "heavy," meaning he was supposedly really good at answering tough questions), i notice they stare intensely at me and i start fumbling my words.

  in one case, i went to a different kh where no one knew me and got the same stare at the door.

  is this stare deliberate, and if so, what is behind it?

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  Bungi Bill

  The only "stare" I have ever observed amongst the JWs is the famous (or infamous?) "Thousand Yard Stare":

  -i.e. the one typically displayed by those who have had to handle more stimuli than they can reasonably cope with in a given period of time.

  Bill.
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  1904 and Russell taken to task for 606 BCE...calling you brainiacs!

  by Aussie Oz in

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  while cruising through the oct 1 1904 watctower i found this interesting challenge to russells 606 date.

  his response in part is also pasted from the wt, but goes on to a very lengthy argument that seems to avoid all the known facts.

  not being very good at understaning the issue at all, i wonder what those here more scholarly than i might make of his full reply.

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  Bungi Bill

  Further to this, when the realisation hit that there was no "year zero", the date for Jerusalem's destruction was put back a year, from 606 to 607 BCE :

  - but the date for the end of "The Times of the Gentiles" was still left fixed at 1914 CE, regardless.

  Talk about creative accounting!

  Bill.
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  Rugby World Cup 2011

  by dm6 in

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  21 days to go!.

  whos looking forward to it?.

  any kiwis here on this board?.

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  Bungi Bill

  Ireland 15, Australia 6

  In this World Cup ( or any other one, for that matter) take nothing for granted!

  In many ways, this win for Ireland has been 20 years in the making:

  - does anybody else here remember their 17 - 16 loss to Australia in the 1991 World Cup?:

  - or am I betraying my age in saying that?

  Bill.
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  The impact of Governing Body policy on higher education: read this!

  by Terry in

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  excerpt:.

  does your religion affect your income?by mari cockerell, ktxs newsabilene, texas -- the pew forum on religion and public life recently put out the results of a survey on wealth and religion in the united states.. you may be surprised to learn which religious groups in this country have the most and the least wealthy members.an infographic produced by the folks at www.good.is breaks down information gathered by the pew forum on religion and wealth.

  it maps out distribution of income for the 14 major religious groups in this country, charting those whose income is less than $30,000 a year all the way up to $100,000+.. what they found is interesting.the religions whose members earn the most money are jews and hindus.

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  Bungi Bill

  In placing the JWs at the bottom of the "socio-economic pile", this survey's results are consistent with those of any other such survey that I have ever heard of.

  Given the WTS's downer on education, should this in any way be surprizing?

  Just the same, I wonder how it would have come over if the JWs had scored high in one of these socio-economic surveys? i.e. would they then be under criticism for trying to worship both God and money?

  - bearing in mind that there is no pleasing some people!

  Bill.
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  Rugby World Cup 2011

  by dm6 in

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  21 days to go!.

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  any kiwis here on this board?.

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  Bungi Bill

  Not much sun to be seen where I am this morning - gale force winds, showers and snow to 1100 metres ASL. Welcome to Tasmania, in the Roaring Forties!

  Bill.
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  Rugby World Cup 2011

  by dm6 in

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  21 days to go!.

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  Bungi Bill

  Where have all the rugby fans gone?

  Well, this one has just woken up!

  World Cups in any sport make for an interesting time - for example, the last Rugby League World Cup. I don't for a moment believe that New Zealand has the best Rugby League team in the world, but they snaffled the last Rugby League World Cup none-the-less.

  As John Eeles (captain of the victorious Australian team in the 1999 Rugby World Cup) said, it is not about the best team in the world - rather, about the better team at the tournament.

  Performance in the Pool Games and beforehand would seem to have little relevance where it counts, i.e. from the quarter finals and onwards. England in 2003 secured The Cup ("The Bill") by winning the games that counted. They also did rather well in the 2007 World Cup, by making the final - despite a disastrous 36 to nil loss the South Africa in the pools.

  This Rugby World Cup is many things, but one thing it isn't is boring!

  Bill.
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  "All religious belief distills down to faith in utterly unprovable stories."

  by Franklin Massey in

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  i read this today on the board and want to ask, is the statement true?.

  all religious belief distills down to faith in utterly unprovable stories.

  i feel this way sometimes.

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  Bungi Bill

  In the absence of any evidence to the contrary, I would have to agree with the above statement.(Furthermore, I won't exactly be holding my breath waiting for any such evidence to appear, either!)

  All too often, religion is something either concocted - or adapted - to allow one group to manipulate the many;

  - more than a little bit silly when you think about it i.e. to allow yourself to be manipulated by a " faith in unprovable stories!"

  Bill.
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  Poll: What do you believe now?

  by Lunatic Faith in

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  i have been noticing we ex-jw's are very different in our choices of beliefs once we leave the wts.

  some choose christianity, others flee christianity.

  some find they can't beieve in anything any more.

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  Bungi Bill

  "Religioned out" would best describe my position.

  I try to keep an open mind towards such matters:

  - but nothing so far (and it has been over 17 years now) has shaken my intense distrust of religion in any of its forms.

  Bill.